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Post by Nabbit Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:56 pm

VOTING HAS ENDED!!!

ALL PLANS PROPOSED SO FAR:

Sohd's:

Princevladlin's "Plan Nihilist Taco":

Nabbit's "Plan Carrot":

Zenzational's Plan:

Plan Ø by Ozone Layer :

Plan SM69 by Steinwayartist and Mickeyryn:

After plans and ideas are given here, we'll run another poll on them. I also included posts from the other thread.


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Post by Ozone Layer Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:43 pm

Plan Ø: To go with the flow. Maybe the end of EP is unavoidable. Maybe, the best time that people will have in EP will be the coming months. Maybe people will start to come back, or stay. Maybe, we can just forget about all these other plans and stop making things so complicated. And most importantly...

Maybe, we can die with EP...with no regret.

Maybe...(put your idea here)
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Post by Malkoir Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:29 am

We should just focus more on finding and reaching out to people on AG. It'll take nothing more than that. We just gotta treat players nice and understand that they are new and still can learn, and teach them how to be real racers and tricksters
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Post by Nabbit Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:15 pm

I think making it easier to register on YckEP might help get people to the site. I remember trying to explain the invite code to someone I wanted to recruit, but he didn't understand.
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Post by Steinwayartist Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:23 am

Im back, so you know when i get back, this stuff gets serious xD. So, i think that we should wait for Armor games to come to us, we dont want to start something we might be able to avoid. Thats my opinion, here is my new and easy plan. Its so easy that i can do almost all of the work, it requires nothing out of the site. Also, this plan does not involve a public site, so we dont have to think too big, i dont want to think too big too early. Here it isPlan F
This plan is very easy to start and to accomplish, it is a quick and easy solution to the problems we are having. Enjoy.

Basically, we are trying to give TP's the power to invite people. Now, we must keep tract of who invited who because if a TP invites a troll, they will be demoted to someone, and someones cannot invite people. TP's are our biggest majority, so we need to keep them happy and keep us happy. Noobs are allowed here, we have many tutorials and options for them to learn and thrive here, and that is what we want Smile The new players are our fuel for the future.

I hear that we are nearing our maximum number of people on this site, around 80% full for the database, so we should really consider getting rid of all of the players who have not been here in several months, the banned people, and those who have not even logged on once!!!!! We will delete their profile so we have more space for the good amount of players we are to receive. If we have a huge influx of people, we will need a few more active moderators to keep the influx in order (maybe 2 or 3) , so we can ban the new trolls (that may or may not be here) and demote those who invited them.

Now, here is the new idea i had in mind. Every week, we will find a few TP's or someones who have done a good deed or two for our site. One person every week will receive a customized thank you from a moderator (or maybe a mentor) thanking them for their good work, this should inspire them to keep playing and keep doing good deeds. Its very easy, and requires little work.

One big question which lots and lots of people are thinking about is "what will happen to the mentors"?? That will be decided later by what the majority of people want.

Anyways, this is our plan, very basic, no having to worry about copyright and such or a public site, it is very basic and only affects the our private community. The only risky part is the invite codes for the TP's, and if it doesn't work well and invites many trolls that we don't want, we can just simply repeal that part or adjust it. This will make sure that Trusted Players live up to their name, and that they are trusted, we can also make a small plan on how to teach them to properly recruit someone so nothing is leaked about our site in public, only in email or however they are willing to communicate.

Steinwayartist Any questions or concerns, message me on my profile (Steinwayartist page 12)
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Post by wopi2 Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:34 pm

Steinwayartist wrote:Im back, so you know when i get back, this stuff gets serious xD. So, i think that we should wait for Armor games to come to us, we dont want to start something we might be able to avoid. Thats my opinion, here is my new and easy plan. Its so easy that i can do almost all of the work, it requires nothing out of the site. Also, this plan does not involve a public site, so we dont have to think too big, i dont want to think too big too early. Here it isPlan F
This plan is very easy to start and to accomplish, it is a quick and easy solution to the problems we are having.  Enjoy.

Basically, we are trying to give TP's the power to invite people. Now, we must keep tract of who invited who because if a TP invites a troll, they will be demoted to someone, and someones cannot invite people.  TP's are our biggest majority, so we need to keep them happy and keep us happy. Noobs are allowed here, we have many tutorials and options for them to learn and thrive here, and that is what we want :)The new players are our fuel for the future.

I hear that we are nearing our maximum number of people on this site, around 80% full for the database, so we should really consider getting rid of all of the players who have not been here in several months, the banned people, and those who have not even logged on once!!!!! We will delete their profile so we have more space for the good amount of players we are to receive. If we have a huge influx of people, we will need a few more active moderators to keep the influx in order (maybe 2 or 3) , so we can ban the new trolls (that may or may not be here) and demote those who invited them.  

Now, here is the new idea i had in mind.  Every week, we will find a few TP's or someones who have done a good deed or two for our site. One person every week will receive a customized thank you from a moderator (or maybe a mentor) thanking them for their good work, this should inspire them to keep playing and keep doing good deeds. Its very easy, and requires little work.

One big question which lots and lots of people are thinking about is "what will happen to the mentors"?? That will be decided later by what the majority of people want.

Anyways, this is our plan, very basic, no having to worry about copyright and such or a public site, it is very basic and only affects the our private community.  The only risky part is the invite codes for the TP's, and if it doesn't work well and invites many trolls that we don't want, we can just simply repeal that part or adjust it. This will make sure that Trusted Players live up to their name, and that they are trusted, we can also make a small plan on how to teach them to properly recruit someone so nothing is leaked about our site in public, only in email or however they are willing to communicate.

Steinwayartist                          Any questions or concerns, message me on my profile (Steinwayartist page 12)

TP's having the ability to invite people before mentors, so I see no reason why it would not work now (Especially with the increased moderation power there is. Futher moreI have always thought deleting inactive accounts is a good idea.

On another note has yck even made an account here yet :3....

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Post by princevladlin Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:05 pm

Steinwayartist wrote:I hear that we are nearing our maximum number of people on this site, around 80% full for the database, so we should really consider getting rid of all of the players who have not been here in several months, the banned people, and those who have not even logged on once!!!!! We will delete their profile so we have more space for the good amount of players we are to receive. If we have a huge influx of people, we will need a few more active moderators to keep the influx in order (maybe 2 or 3) , so we can ban the new trolls (that may or may not be here) and demote those who invited them.

I'm fairly sure that YEP is near capacity for daily traffic, not for how many people have registered on the site. Unless I am incorrect, it does not matter how many have registered.
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Post by sohdbrimks Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:41 pm

Here's my plan. Lets call it "The Best Plan in the World"

obs: I barely read the previous plans so sorry if I repeat something

1- I think the most important thing to atract new players is making the game fun for "someone" rank. Here's a few ideas:
- add a bunch of custom racing levels to the game
- add some easy customs (not racing) too
- add a few medium dificulty levels, but they are NOT chosen randomly -  they can only be chosen by putting !level
- randomize the levels more. Right now it seens we play a bunch of john levels, then a bunch of yck levels, then go back to john, etc. Make it really random; you play Defamation, then front door, then Cubicles?! for example
- on the game page, under the game window, add all the codes we can use (!level, !custom, !time and all level numbers), basicaly how it was on the white site.

2- Add Exit button

3- Show who put the level to prevent trolling

4- Be more careful with auth. Only give auth to trusted players (duh) and only after they have played for at least a month. If they keep whining for auth, treaten to ban them.

Seriously, some people seen to feel sorry for "someone" rank, but just "someone" is much more fun than playing on AG already. They can chat in-game and play yck levels. That's AWESOME. When I first joined I only wanted to play yck levels, and didn't found out custom levels existed until like 1 week later.

ps: I called this a "plan" just for fun, actualy it's more of a suggestion because 1, 2 and 3 depends totaly on yck and will probably never happen. I think mentors and mods should keep 4 in mind though. Annoying "someone"s can be muted, but annoying authed people can crash rooms and annoy AG users.


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Post by sohdbrimks Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:44 pm

How much traffic is used by the game vs memberlist and profiles?
If profiles use too much we could remove them, and let only mods see memberlist so it uses less too
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Post by Zenzational Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:42 pm

We should add a couple administrators too (removable by yck1509 just in case), that are really trusted and know how to run and manage a site, fix problems, and implement changes.

I mean if yck dies (no offence), its all over....
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Post by princevladlin Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:27 pm

Plan Nihilist;Taco
There is no plan. I think the whole plan thing is kind of a bad idea. Previous plans were too bloated and complicated to be of much use. With so many elements involved, disagreement is pretty likely, even if it's just over one thing.

Therefore, I propose that any issues be evaluated separately in the general discussion forum. I do, however, think a few things should be taken into consideration when dealing with all of them:

  • What is the desired outcome? If something's broken, fix it. If the goal is to get more people involved in the ep community, there's not much you we can do to push that. There are definitely some things we could do (i.e. play in ag rooms more or improve YEP to make it more enticing to new/old players), but people will become involved if they want to. The most the community can do would be to ensure that its presence is known and that it is open to those interested (and here's where the question comes in of whether or not to do away with invite codes or let TPs generate invite codes)
  • YEP is in yck's hands. Any changes that we want to be made to the game and site have to be implemented by him. If he doesn't agree or doesn't have the time, nothing will happen.


So my plan is simply that if there are any concerns and issues that people wish to discuss (bugs and improvements; authority system; invite code system) should be addressed separately and not as a package.

The issues that seem to have popped up the most are:
.making improvements to YEP as a game
.changing/altering authority/ranks (i.e. mentor, mod, someone)
.getting rid of invite codes or making the site easier to get on
.playing on ag more and being of more help

I haven't heard anyone voice an opinion against improvements, and we already have a section in the forum for proposed improvements.
I think the next two should be discussed separately.
As for the final one, it's really a voluntary thing.

As for recommendations, I would recommend that we add more admins to the site. The most realistic thing we can do to make YEP better is to actually make YEP better. As I've said, right now we're limited by yck's abilities. Past plans put too much pressure on yck.

Zenzational wrote:We should add a couple administrators too (removable by yck1509 just in case), that are really trusted and know how to run and manage a site, fix problems, and implement changes.

I agree here completely. I think it would also be a good idea to consider getting other people to help out if possible and to find out if anyone else here has experience with flash games/actionscript.


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Post by Nabbit Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:46 pm

Xakaze's and KrissKhan's Plan Q
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Post by Steinwayartist Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:30 pm

we have been through plan Q and it appears to be that no one is really willing to put it in gear. So i am thinking baby steps and not long jumping. i think we need a combination of Zen's post, Sohds idea, and mine. They are all basic ideas that can improve our site and are not totally out of our league. I mean if we go with all of our plans combined, it might work. And Zen did say that if yck dies, its all over, so we do need another Admin or two. I mean the Head Mod and mod thing in plan Q was not a bad idea. With the large influx we may have with the plan we choose, it will come in handy. The more active the better!! ^^ I do think we need to do another poll. HOWEVER!!! we keep track of who voted for what plan, and they will promise in return that for their vote, they will have to help us if we need it, so we just cant have what happened last time, ACTION MUST HAPPEN!!! we dont know how long we have left!!!
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Post by Steinwayartist Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:30 pm

and that dole commercial made me question life, and it was very sexy Razz
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Post by princevladlin Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:41 pm

sohdbrimks wrote:How much traffic is used by the game vs memberlist and profiles?
If profiles use too much we could remove them, and let only mods see memberlist so it uses less too

Traffic is just hits. Profiles don't matter.
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Post by Mickeyryn Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:20 pm

First of all, can someone please sticky this?

I BELIEVE just one of the many reasons Y-EP disbanded (partially) is because new OK players who got invited because of their friends started inviting other people, people who couldn't simply wall-jump. I remember LichtDesZorns, a great friend and mentor, who left because of this reason. I know and am sure that many others have left on the same behalf. So we should help players to not be this way! Having too much of an elitist community will not water the plants, it will dry them out! Having this will just exclude all the other players that could be here (who are currently) on AG-EP making us seem, and I'm sure making some of us feel like a couple of old geezers sitting alone in a broken busted down old mansion (#thatbrucewaynelife) . As much as we would all hate to have noobs and, yes, I'll admit some semi-good players flooding in, making us wait for them for hours (on end) to warp, I think we may just have to grow this virtue called... wait for it... Patience! What is that, gimme the EP definition? We need to teach the new players to have the skill and to play to our skill level. It would be more fun for everyone, by:

a) we'll have some challenges/competition
b) we'll have more players on
c) with active players it won't feel like a barren desert
d) and, of course we will have a tighter, friendlier, happier, skilled community.

I think this revolutionized Y-EP version 2.0 shall be like a plus 1 party. If you join, if you get the beautiful chance to join this amazing community (I think) , if you meet certain requirements (which I can list below) you must invite/recruit another, and train them and help them to pass the required test to join.


Proposed Requirement(s) :

Pass a test. This test will be made up by executive levelmakers (guest_phoenix94305, dragon144, sohdbrimks, Xakaze) and will change every month. The contestant will be required to complete a series of obstacle courses, e.g. triple, warp, corner jump, walljump within a time limit. It shant be too hard, as we wouldn't want to scare off any possible rising stars, be it shant be too easy, either, for we wouldn't want any run-of-the-mill Joe Biden jumping into the fray. To be on this private site, you don't have to be a pro either. Just complete a pretty nice test in the time limit and join. In order to test someone like this too, we should get Yck1509 to make a public training server, with training levels like dragon144's "fundamentals-just those basics!" Again, I will state, that when someone would join, they should recruit atleast one new person to be trained, which will aid to the "keeping-this-site-active-so-that-we-are-not-in-a-barren-desert" part of this revolutionary part in our community, in this site, in our Y-EP version 2.0 .
Thanks guys!

-Mickey, the bro who just won first place with his soccer team at a 25+ team tournament!

And p.s. Please tell me what you think! Comment below, because I know this part in our beloved community is very controversial!

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Post by Steinwayartist Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:37 am

i do think we have to keep someones and TP's on our site, they are our majority by a lot! so we need to keep them having fun with new things, maybe contests of levels or something. But noobs are not bad actually, all we need are proper tutorials and a noob can be made into a pretty good player. But maybe we should make a tutorial site, not public. But just so that the new players can hone some skills before the real deal.
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Post by princevladlin Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:14 am

Steinwayartist wrote:i do think we have to keep someones and TP's on our site, they are our majority by a lot! so we need to keep them having fun with new things, maybe contests of levels or something. But noobs are not bad actually, all we need are proper tutorials and a noob can be made into a pretty good player. But maybe we should make a tutorial site, not public. But just so that the new players can hone some skills before the real deal.
Well there is this (though some of the videos are gone) and dragon's tutorials.
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Post by Steinwayartist Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:57 am

yes, the tutorials are sadly gone. they were good.
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Post by princevladlin Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:14 pm

Steinwayartist wrote:yes, the tutorials are sadly gone. they were good.
None of them are gone. They're not on the forum, but they're all available for download.
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Post by wopi2 Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:50 pm

Well I was gona right a proper plan but it appers my rant was expanded on by you guys so won't bother

Anyways always here if I am needed and will be back playing in a couple of days

Good work peeps :3

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Post by Mickeyryn Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:16 pm

Oh boy oh boy oh boyy!
My topic was moved!

Anyways yes, Dragon's tutorials were amazing. But I think, before anyone jumps to any quick shitty solution, let's work on getting our long lost (not, they are actually available for download, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) levels back onto our beloved new forum.


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Post by Ozone Layer Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:22 pm

YEAH!
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Post by holdonmyheart Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:50 pm

Other input real quick: I figured it up (because I was bored and wanted to do math).
Out of all of our (unbanned) players on memberlist, 26.5% are inactive. See skypechat for numbers if you want to correct me (at and around 9:30pm EST, 8/8/13).

Inactive, in this case, is defined as not being on YEP for five months or more. Pretty sure most people know banned = no one.
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Post by Mickeyryn Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:41 pm

Yes, @holdonmyheart !

Let's figure out a weekly (or monthly or whatever) time that will be convenient for the majority that we will meet up and chat, and BTW, pardon my neanderthal-like ignorance, but is the chat thing people have been talking about the chat that is on the main page for this website?

Sheir tha luv!

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